jim hoffa, what is wrong with giving woe ining workers a choi? >> it is creating a free rider status. with the majority of votes, that should be the people that control in that particular company. we have done this successfully all across the country. those states that do not have right to work, the ones that do have right to work, like mississippi, or texas, end up being the last in education, the last in people making -- having good jobs. we don't want that here in michigan. we want to create good jobs here. we don't want a race for the bottom. this will basically reinforce the fact that people make less money who are not in the union. so we really don't -- this is out to discriminate against unions, to make it so people don't want to join unions. what we want to do is now is to encourage that. >> you want to bring jobs to michigan, you want to bring business to michigan, but the thing is, you know, some businesses won't hire or even work with some of the unions because in these times they simply cannot afford it. and proponents of right to wor